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		<title>By: Bill Corr</title>
		<link>http://www.davidosler.com/2010/07/elton-does-orwell-sorry-that%e2%80%99s-just-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-32567</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Corr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This site is a beacon of civility compared to HP and SU right now ...

http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=6419#comment-248332

... is Mars in the cusp of Saturn or something?

Jimmy - it is Chinese people* and the Iban of Sarawak and Korean and Philippine people who eat dogs. 

We Europeans only eat dogs in extremis during very hard times - the Siege of Paris and the Siege of Leningrad, for example.

* When one gets to know a few Chinese face-to-face they will tell you that the meat of dogs is:

-1- A luxury item and quite a bit more pricy than pork, beef and so on

-2- &#039;heaty&#039; - a Malaysian Chinese word which implies, inter alia, that one has lots of sexual energy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This site is a beacon of civility compared to HP and SU right now &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=6419#comment-248332" rel="nofollow">http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=6419#comment-248332</a></p>
<p>&#8230; is Mars in the cusp of Saturn or something?</p>
<p>Jimmy &#8211; it is Chinese people* and the Iban of Sarawak and Korean and Philippine people who eat dogs. </p>
<p>We Europeans only eat dogs in extremis during very hard times &#8211; the Siege of Paris and the Siege of Leningrad, for example.</p>
<p>* When one gets to know a few Chinese face-to-face they will tell you that the meat of dogs is:</p>
<p>-1- A luxury item and quite a bit more pricy than pork, beef and so on</p>
<p>-2- &#8216;heaty&#8217; &#8211; a Malaysian Chinese word which implies, inter alia, that one has lots of sexual energy</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Corr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Corr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 17:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SUE R.  [and others, too]

Concerning political music, there&#039;s this gem ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-WaXrsFLgo

... if heard with visual images of Germans doing nice and sensible things, it comes across as mean and spiteful but if heard with the ghastly images of WW2 it seems like mildly ironic understatement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SUE R.  [and others, too]</p>
<p>Concerning political music, there&#8217;s this gem &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-WaXrsFLgo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-WaXrsFLgo</a></p>
<p>&#8230; if heard with visual images of Germans doing nice and sensible things, it comes across as mean and spiteful but if heard with the ghastly images of WW2 it seems like mildly ironic understatement.</p>
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		<title>By: Southpawpunch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Southpawpunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 13:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to finally (correct) Modernity, my understanding is that Kaschke is trying for a (verbal?) appeal despite losing her application for appeal and I presume she may also try both of those in relation to the Gray and Hilton cases (??). 

When it is  finally beyond doubt that she can do no more, then I will publish in full what happened (and as I did partially in the above link) and it will be seen that &#039;Runia&#039; (sic), Modernity and assorted other munchkins have no clue about what they spout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to finally (correct) Modernity, my understanding is that Kaschke is trying for a (verbal?) appeal despite losing her application for appeal and I presume she may also try both of those in relation to the Gray and Hilton cases (??). </p>
<p>When it is  finally beyond doubt that she can do no more, then I will publish in full what happened (and as I did partially in the above link) and it will be seen that &#8216;Runia&#8217; (sic), Modernity and assorted other munchkins have no clue about what they spout.</p>
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		<title>By: modernity</title>
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		<dc:creator>modernity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 11:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Southpawpunch,

You forget your previous statements:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Osler quite reasonably asked me to give a statement about my comment and after some discussion between us I decided not to do so.

I think it should be presumed that &lt;B&gt;it is incumbent on Lefts to assist others in such a way (even for barely Lefts), as Osler requested,&lt;/B&gt; but I am of the view that there were very good and ‘justifiable as a Left’ reasons for me not to do so. I conveyed these reasons to Osler.

&lt;B&gt;I will be pleased to report these reasons here and people can make up their own mind.&lt;/B&gt; I think any reasonable Left would agree with me although doubtless some will be blinded by their political disagreements with me and so be unable to fairly judge whether I was justified, or not, in what I did.

But I think it would be most unwise to give these reasons here before the end of all proceedings.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://www.davidosler.com/2010/05/johanna-kaschke-the-tory-suspected-of-links-to-leftwing-extremists/

The proceedings have ended, we are still awaiting you to report those reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Southpawpunch,</p>
<p>You forget your previous statements:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Osler quite reasonably asked me to give a statement about my comment and after some discussion between us I decided not to do so.</p>
<p>I think it should be presumed that <b>it is incumbent on Lefts to assist others in such a way (even for barely Lefts), as Osler requested,</b> but I am of the view that there were very good and ‘justifiable as a Left’ reasons for me not to do so. I conveyed these reasons to Osler.</p>
<p><b>I will be pleased to report these reasons here and people can make up their own mind.</b> I think any reasonable Left would agree with me although doubtless some will be blinded by their political disagreements with me and so be unable to fairly judge whether I was justified, or not, in what I did.</p>
<p>But I think it would be most unwise to give these reasons here before the end of all proceedings.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.davidosler.com/2010/05/johanna-kaschke-the-tory-suspected-of-links-to-leftwing-extremists/" rel="nofollow">http://www.davidosler.com/2010/05/johanna-kaschke-the-tory-suspected-of-links-to-leftwing-extremists/</a></p>
<p>The proceedings have ended, we are still awaiting you to report those reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: runia</title>
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		<dc:creator>runia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 08:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of the best written and most interesting blogs around in my opinion.
Of course the comments are 90% shite as they are everywhere else.

Southpawpunch coming back isn&#039;t an improvement. He&#039;s full of shit. He&#039;s got a nerve too after shitting on Dave from a great height when he needed some support.

Go and spout your simpleton ultra-left shite somewhere else punchy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the best written and most interesting blogs around in my opinion.<br />
Of course the comments are 90% shite as they are everywhere else.</p>
<p>Southpawpunch coming back isn&#8217;t an improvement. He&#8217;s full of shit. He&#8217;s got a nerve too after shitting on Dave from a great height when he needed some support.</p>
<p>Go and spout your simpleton ultra-left shite somewhere else punchy.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Corr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Corr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 04:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not going to mention the absurd Kasche case or SOUTHPAWPUNCH&#039;s outrageously caddish behaviour again.

Ever.

It was amusing to see the Rat using grotesquely archaic &#039;Daily Worker&#039; lingo like &quot;petty bourgeois deviationist&quot; ...

In Libya, in 1977, there were posters everywhere in Tripoli, in Arabic, English and Italian, exhorting people to do something or other and one slogan, stuck forever in my mind, was:

PURGE THE COUNTRY OF DEVIATIONISTS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to mention the absurd Kasche case or SOUTHPAWPUNCH&#8217;s outrageously caddish behaviour again.</p>
<p>Ever.</p>
<p>It was amusing to see the Rat using grotesquely archaic &#8216;Daily Worker&#8217; lingo like &#8220;petty bourgeois deviationist&#8221; &#8230;</p>
<p>In Libya, in 1977, there were posters everywhere in Tripoli, in Arabic, English and Italian, exhorting people to do something or other and one slogan, stuck forever in my mind, was:</p>
<p>PURGE THE COUNTRY OF DEVIATIONISTS!</p>
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		<title>By: Southpawpunch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Southpawpunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 02:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, it really was a mistake to comment. A moment&#039;s lack of concentration when using the site for links and carelessly reading a comment and thinking - renegade Labourite factotum that Osler may now be - no-one deserves the meaningless scrawl that now passes for comments on this blog (since the departure of myself and other Lefts last year).

To correct the above commentators, the Kaschke matter wasn&#039;t like that at all and if you really want to know what happened (and believe me, you really do not want to) it&#039;s at http://www.davidosler.com/2010/05/johanna-kaschke-the-tory-suspected-of-links-to-leftwing-extremists/

Maybe the above comments and most now posted here are some great joke by some advant-garde artist. Just how irrelevant and inane can they be and still have at least a faint resemblance to the English Language. 

Or perhaps it&#039;s the current state of a Cold War experiment involving 40 monkeys with type-writers. These comments are as far as they have progressed in 45 years; in a few hundred years they should get to the level of simple nursery rhymes.

So rarely have so many keyboards been prodded so much to such little effect as the screed that fills these boxes nowadays. Give it up, Osler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it really was a mistake to comment. A moment&#8217;s lack of concentration when using the site for links and carelessly reading a comment and thinking &#8211; renegade Labourite factotum that Osler may now be &#8211; no-one deserves the meaningless scrawl that now passes for comments on this blog (since the departure of myself and other Lefts last year).</p>
<p>To correct the above commentators, the Kaschke matter wasn&#8217;t like that at all and if you really want to know what happened (and believe me, you really do not want to) it&#8217;s at <a href="http://www.davidosler.com/2010/05/johanna-kaschke-the-tory-suspected-of-links-to-leftwing-extremists/" rel="nofollow">http://www.davidosler.com/2010/05/johanna-kaschke-the-tory-suspected-of-links-to-leftwing-extremists/</a></p>
<p>Maybe the above comments and most now posted here are some great joke by some advant-garde artist. Just how irrelevant and inane can they be and still have at least a faint resemblance to the English Language. </p>
<p>Or perhaps it&#8217;s the current state of a Cold War experiment involving 40 monkeys with type-writers. These comments are as far as they have progressed in 45 years; in a few hundred years they should get to the level of simple nursery rhymes.</p>
<p>So rarely have so many keyboards been prodded so much to such little effect as the screed that fills these boxes nowadays. Give it up, Osler.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Corr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Corr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 20:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BILE SUPPLIED! SATISFACTION GUARANTEED!

One wonders just how much money, in raw cash terms, SOUTHPAWPUNCH might justly be considered to owe David Osler.

Well, if we cost Osler&#039;s time at a very modest tenner an hour [not much above minimum wage] my guess is that it&#039;d be in the thousands.

Here&#039;s counterfactual drivel from Al-Grauniad ...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jun/13/saudi-arabia-king-abdullah-anniversary?showallcomments=true#start-of-comments

... drivel of a kind that turns me immediately into an unpaid P.R. shill - a Cameron Lite - for the House of Saud and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia [of course, I&#039;m typing on a laptop I bought in Al-Khobar with my wages in my last job, so I AM a hack of sorts] and it ENRAGES me that rot like this gets into print in what was once a revered publication devoted to the truth.

&quot;I can stand rot but it must NOT be utter rot&quot;
Bertie Wooster

To say that Al-Grauniad ought to be bitterly ashamed of hosting this drivel goes without saying.

By the way, do any of you recall

&quot;BRITISH NURSES IN PRISON IN SAUDI ARABIA FOR MURDER&quot; - well, that WAS the place of my last job and I can tell you that the old [Western] hands there in KFMMC were convinced beyond all doubt of the guilt of those two women.

One of the pair - nonames here - had already clocked up an interesting track record and it was alleged that the Ryal Scottish College of Nursing were keen to have a word with her about whether or not she knew anything at all about who might possibly have used a dying patient&#039;s credit card.

[She might by now be working in the nursing home where you parked your beloved old granny!]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BILE SUPPLIED! SATISFACTION GUARANTEED!</p>
<p>One wonders just how much money, in raw cash terms, SOUTHPAWPUNCH might justly be considered to owe David Osler.</p>
<p>Well, if we cost Osler&#8217;s time at a very modest tenner an hour [not much above minimum wage] my guess is that it&#8217;d be in the thousands.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s counterfactual drivel from Al-Grauniad &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jun/13/saudi-arabia-king-abdullah-anniversary?showallcomments=true#start-of-comments" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jun/13/saudi-arabia-king-abdullah-anniversary?showallcomments=true#start-of-comments</a></p>
<p>&#8230; drivel of a kind that turns me immediately into an unpaid P.R. shill &#8211; a Cameron Lite &#8211; for the House of Saud and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia [of course, I'm typing on a laptop I bought in Al-Khobar with my wages in my last job, so I AM a hack of sorts] and it ENRAGES me that rot like this gets into print in what was once a revered publication devoted to the truth.</p>
<p>&#8220;I can stand rot but it must NOT be utter rot&#8221;<br />
Bertie Wooster</p>
<p>To say that Al-Grauniad ought to be bitterly ashamed of hosting this drivel goes without saying.</p>
<p>By the way, do any of you recall</p>
<p>&#8220;BRITISH NURSES IN PRISON IN SAUDI ARABIA FOR MURDER&#8221; &#8211; well, that WAS the place of my last job and I can tell you that the old [Western] hands there in KFMMC were convinced beyond all doubt of the guilt of those two women.</p>
<p>One of the pair &#8211; nonames here &#8211; had already clocked up an interesting track record and it was alleged that the Ryal Scottish College of Nursing were keen to have a word with her about whether or not she knew anything at all about who might possibly have used a dying patient&#8217;s credit card.</p>
<p>[She might by now be working in the nursing home where you parked your beloved old granny!]</p>
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		<title>By: The Sewer Rat</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Sewer Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 19:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha. ha, what makes the petty bourgois deviationist Southpaw Punch think that any of us would be interested in reading his comments.  Not while Bill Corr will supply bile for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha. ha, what makes the petty bourgois deviationist Southpaw Punch think that any of us would be interested in reading his comments.  Not while Bill Corr will supply bile for free.</p>
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		<title>By: modernity</title>
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		<dc:creator>modernity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 17:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;&quot;I don’t know why the author continues but if he does still wish to waste his time I’d be happy to write comments for him here again, but only at £25 a pop, payable in advance.&quot;&lt;/I&gt;

Isn&#039;t it &lt;I&gt;&quot;I don’t know why the author continues but if he does still wish to waste his time I’d be happy to write comments for him here again, but only at £25 a pop, payable in advance.&quot;&lt;/I&gt;

Hang on, Southpawpunch

Isn&#039;t it the other way around? 

You owe Dave money, for the extreme stress and aggravation of the Kasche libel action and your apparent part in this matter? 

Still, public school boys are unlikely to ever repay a debt..class nature of em....etc, so Southpawpunch you are never going to admit your culpability in this matter or cough up...no surprise there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I don’t know why the author continues but if he does still wish to waste his time I’d be happy to write comments for him here again, but only at £25 a pop, payable in advance.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it <i>&#8220;I don’t know why the author continues but if he does still wish to waste his time I’d be happy to write comments for him here again, but only at £25 a pop, payable in advance.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Hang on, Southpawpunch</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it the other way around? </p>
<p>You owe Dave money, for the extreme stress and aggravation of the Kasche libel action and your apparent part in this matter? </p>
<p>Still, public school boys are unlikely to ever repay a debt..class nature of em&#8230;.etc, so Southpawpunch you are never going to admit your culpability in this matter or cough up&#8230;no surprise there&#8230;</p>
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