Comments on: The legality of Israel’s attack on Mavi Marmaris

By: modernity

modernity — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 00:47:26 +0000

“By the way was Modernity on the flotilla, he seems to have gone very quiet as of late?”

Not really, I posted on it last week, been away, and anyway would you even *read* what I posted? Exactly.

By: Bill Corr

Bill Corr — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:26:35 +0000

Not everyone here has read this yet :

http://www.slate.com/id/2256189/

I was reminded recently that King Abdul-Aziz told Franklin Roosevelt face-to-face in the 1940s that the wronged Jews ought to be awarded a chunk of Germany rather than wronging the Palestinians, who had done them no harm at all.

On reflection, it’s not too late even now.

Assume that all the Jewish Israelis were to be resettled in Germany, France, Britain, Ireland, Belgium and Holland over, say, a five-year period, and that rulers of the 57 countries of the O.I.C. were to be so overcome with joy at this Final Solution of the Palestine Question that they readily accepted to resettle all the Muslims currently residing in Germany, France, Britain, Ireland, Belgium and Holland.

Win – Win for everyone, I’d jolly well say!

By: M West

M West — Mon, 07 Jun 2010 22:53:37 +0000

If anyone is still interested, Craig Murray asserts that San Remo does not apply.
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2010/06/why_san_remo_do.html

Also important to realise the Mavi Marmara was reflagged around 20 May to Comoros Islands. This was due to Turkish authorities re-licensing the ship for coastal waters only, when it was sold to private owners (IHH) thus it had no certification for open waters.

By: JOHNNO

JOHNNO — Mon, 07 Jun 2010 07:36:18 +0000

“Do you think they say something about UK politics, rather than the kind of people who ‘vote’ on trivial polls?”

Ruling class propaganda and deliberate undermining of democracy by being fast and loose with the facts?

Wasn’t Karl Marx voted the greatest philosopher who ever lived by the Great British public?

By: Jimmy Glesga

Jimmy Glesga — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:57:06 +0000

Lobby Doser. Thanks for having the courtesy of calling me by my first mame. fripperies is a word I may use in future conversations once I have looked it up. Being wurkin class such wurds do not come to mind immediately. I do not recall the lovely minesweeper Diane being third. But old Winston does deserve to be remembered. OK I appreciate if you are a BNP NAZI then Winston was not going to be your pop idle.

By: Lobby Ludd

Lobby Ludd — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:44:45 +0000

James Glasgow:

“Richard von Q. Lets assume Churchill was really a Gas Man and ordered its use. Do you think he should be stripped of his title as Britains greatest Brit.”

This ‘title’ was the result of a BBC poll conducted around the programme ’100 Greatest Britons’, broadcast in 2002. (Number three was the Blessed Lady Di.) Why do such fripperies matter to you, James? Do you think they say something about UK politics, rather than the kind of people who ‘vote’ on trivial polls?

By: Jimmy Glesga

Jimmy Glesga — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 17:56:14 +0000

Richard von Q. Lets assume Churchill was really a Gas Man and ordered its use. Do you think he should be stripped of his title as Britains greatest Brit.

By: Richard von Q.

Richard von Q. — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 15:55:03 +0000

“If I say -p, then q that means that if there is not a state of p, then q exists. Please analyse Churchill’s statement, he says quite clearly, ‘it is not necessary to use the most dangerous gases, there are other less lethal gases.’. ”

I think i have a basic grasp of logic but please make your logical analysis of the statement explicit since I don’t quite see how the statement fits into the if not p then q framework. I’m not being argumentative here, I just want to clarify what you mean so I can respond.

By: Jimmy Glesga

Jimmy Glesga — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 11:25:53 +0000

SueR. As the Irish would say ‘answer the fookin question’. Do not change the subject. Anyway it was a German officer that started the ball rolling with the gas during WWI. He was a real scumbag anti semetic. Did not even attend his wife’s funeral. Some of those Saddam supporting socialists would probably admire him.

By: Sue R

Sue R — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 07:50:04 +0000

Richard von Q: If I say -p, then q that means that if there is not a state of p, then q exists. Please analyse Churchill’s statement, he says quite clearly, ‘it is not necessary to use the most dangerous gases, there are other less lethal gases.’. That is not to deny that the more lethal gases were not held in reserve, but we know they were not used. The fact they were not used is nothing to do with morality, more to do with superior firepower from a technological civilization. Weasel words from you. Mere semantics. And, Jimmy, I am sorry to bring up the question of gas but it wasn’t me who started it. No doubt a deliberate ploy on the part of certain people.