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	<title>Comments on: BNP teachers: it&#8217;s right not to ban them</title>
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		<title>By: Edward Ford</title>
		<link>http://www.davidosler.com/2010/03/bnp-teachers-its-right-not-to-ban-them/comment-page-1/#comment-27846</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward Ford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comrades,

Here is a copy of my article on the subject:

http://www.cpgb.org.uk/article.php?article_id=1003849

wcg,
Edward Ford</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comrades,</p>
<p>Here is a copy of my article on the subject:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cpgb.org.uk/article.php?article_id=1003849" rel="nofollow">http://www.cpgb.org.uk/article.php?article_id=1003849</a></p>
<p>wcg,<br />
Edward Ford</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Corr</title>
		<link>http://www.davidosler.com/2010/03/bnp-teachers-its-right-not-to-ban-them/comment-page-1/#comment-27685</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Corr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew Coates mentioned the Grey Wolves:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Wolves#Grey_Wolves_outside_of_Turkey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew Coates mentioned the Grey Wolves:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Wolves#Grey_Wolves_outside_of_Turkey" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Wolves#Grey_Wolves_outside_of_Turkey</a></p>
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		<title>By: modernity</title>
		<link>http://www.davidosler.com/2010/03/bnp-teachers-its-right-not-to-ban-them/comment-page-1/#comment-27674</link>
		<dc:creator>modernity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is much simpler and political:

&lt;B&gt;how do you stop the normalisation of the BNP and British neofascism&lt;/B&gt;

That is the question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is much simpler and political:</p>
<p><b>how do you stop the normalisation of the BNP and British neofascism</b></p>
<p>That is the question.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Corr</title>
		<link>http://www.davidosler.com/2010/03/bnp-teachers-its-right-not-to-ban-them/comment-page-1/#comment-27670</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Corr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew Coates refers to the Grey Wolves, allegedly linked to at least one political murder in Germany.

One yarn, truthful or not, is that supporters of the ultra-nationalist Grey Wolves in Belgium, Holland and Germany are urged to join Leftist parties in their host ountries, not on the grounds of ideological affinity, but on the far simpler grounds that immigrants are welcomed into such parties with few, if any questions, asked and are, for that matter, urged to stand for local elected office.

Did the I.F.E. steal the playbook from them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew Coates refers to the Grey Wolves, allegedly linked to at least one political murder in Germany.</p>
<p>One yarn, truthful or not, is that supporters of the ultra-nationalist Grey Wolves in Belgium, Holland and Germany are urged to join Leftist parties in their host ountries, not on the grounds of ideological affinity, but on the far simpler grounds that immigrants are welcomed into such parties with few, if any questions, asked and are, for that matter, urged to stand for local elected office.</p>
<p>Did the I.F.E. steal the playbook from them?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Coates</title>
		<link>http://www.davidosler.com/2010/03/bnp-teachers-its-right-not-to-ban-them/comment-page-1/#comment-27668</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Coates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with banning people from certain professions because of their political views (not *acts*) is where does it stop? 

Dave gives some good reasons relating to the far-right, but they are wider issues about racist groups - which extend to Islamism, a variety of ultra-nationalist bodies (eg,. the Turkish Grey Wolves), some form of indigeneous far-right nationalists in Wales and Scotland, weird religous sects (Scientology for exampel), 9/11 Troofers, and so on. 

Anti-democratic and often racist groups there are plenty. As well as individuals with these opinions who are not members of anything.

I would have thought this is pretty obvious. But apparently some people are working themselves up into a froth about the BNP - which to my knowledge is no more racist than say, the Jamaat-I-Islami which some former leftists think is a strategic &#039;anti-imperialist&#039; ally. The BNP has also killed rather fewer people than the Jamaat. 

It seems that one reason to huff and puff about the BNP is to avoid really confronting racism - as it forms the basis of the anti-foreign migrant worker campaigns of the press. 

And the Conservative Party:

http://tendancecoatesy.wordpress.com/2010/03/12/ben-gummer-plays-the-race-card/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with banning people from certain professions because of their political views (not *acts*) is where does it stop? </p>
<p>Dave gives some good reasons relating to the far-right, but they are wider issues about racist groups &#8211; which extend to Islamism, a variety of ultra-nationalist bodies (eg,. the Turkish Grey Wolves), some form of indigeneous far-right nationalists in Wales and Scotland, weird religous sects (Scientology for exampel), 9/11 Troofers, and so on. </p>
<p>Anti-democratic and often racist groups there are plenty. As well as individuals with these opinions who are not members of anything.</p>
<p>I would have thought this is pretty obvious. But apparently some people are working themselves up into a froth about the BNP &#8211; which to my knowledge is no more racist than say, the Jamaat-I-Islami which some former leftists think is a strategic &#8216;anti-imperialist&#8217; ally. The BNP has also killed rather fewer people than the Jamaat. </p>
<p>It seems that one reason to huff and puff about the BNP is to avoid really confronting racism &#8211; as it forms the basis of the anti-foreign migrant worker campaigns of the press. </p>
<p>And the Conservative Party:</p>
<p><a href="http://tendancecoatesy.wordpress.com/2010/03/12/ben-gummer-plays-the-race-card/" rel="nofollow">http://tendancecoatesy.wordpress.com/2010/03/12/ben-gummer-plays-the-race-card/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bill Corr</title>
		<link>http://www.davidosler.com/2010/03/bnp-teachers-its-right-not-to-ban-them/comment-page-1/#comment-27667</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Corr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon was right:

http://philosopedia.org/index.php?title=Robert_Crumb&amp;printable=yes

Lot and NOT Noah!

Mea culpa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon was right:</p>
<p><a href="http://philosopedia.org/index.php?title=Robert_Crumb&amp;printable=yes" rel="nofollow">http://philosopedia.org/index.php?title=Robert_Crumb&amp;printable=yes</a></p>
<p>Lot and NOT Noah!</p>
<p>Mea culpa</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Corr</title>
		<link>http://www.davidosler.com/2010/03/bnp-teachers-its-right-not-to-ban-them/comment-page-1/#comment-27666</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Corr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And some here may not be up to date on Alibhai-Brown&#039;s Adventures ...

http://www.hurryupharry.org/2010/03/13/yeah-right-yasmin/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And some here may not be up to date on Alibhai-Brown&#8217;s Adventures &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hurryupharry.org/2010/03/13/yeah-right-yasmin/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hurryupharry.org/2010/03/13/yeah-right-yasmin/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bill Corr</title>
		<link>http://www.davidosler.com/2010/03/bnp-teachers-its-right-not-to-ban-them/comment-page-1/#comment-27664</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Corr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not exactly about the BNP but here is Frank Foeld being praised:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1257613/The-politician-guts-speak-immigration-Frank-Field-reveals-candid-opinion-future-Britain.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not exactly about the BNP but here is Frank Foeld being praised:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1257613/The-politician-guts-speak-immigration-Frank-Field-reveals-candid-opinion-future-Britain.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1257613/The-politician-guts-speak-immigration-Frank-Field-reveals-candid-opinion-future-Britain.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bill Corr</title>
		<link>http://www.davidosler.com/2010/03/bnp-teachers-its-right-not-to-ban-them/comment-page-1/#comment-27663</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Corr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Simon!

Back to Sunday School with you!

Lot turned his face against the saucy and sinful gay hanky-panky goings-on in the Cities of the Plain and left. 

Despite being explicitly warned, Lot&#039;s wife was unable to resist the temptation to look back and watch the Cities of the Plain being annihilated by the fire and brimstone hurled down by Jehovah and was turned into a Pillar of Salt.

If one believes the local tour guides, her pillar may be seen to this day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Simon!</p>
<p>Back to Sunday School with you!</p>
<p>Lot turned his face against the saucy and sinful gay hanky-panky goings-on in the Cities of the Plain and left. </p>
<p>Despite being explicitly warned, Lot&#8217;s wife was unable to resist the temptation to look back and watch the Cities of the Plain being annihilated by the fire and brimstone hurled down by Jehovah and was turned into a Pillar of Salt.</p>
<p>If one believes the local tour guides, her pillar may be seen to this day.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.davidosler.com/2010/03/bnp-teachers-its-right-not-to-ban-them/comment-page-1/#comment-27659</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Noah’s daughters getting their drunken father sexually aroused and committing incest with him&quot;

That was Lott...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Noah’s daughters getting their drunken father sexually aroused and committing incest with him&#8221;</p>
<p>That was Lott&#8230;</p>
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