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		<title>By: JimD</title>
		<link>http://www.davidosler.com/2009/08/iran-capitalist-theocracy-sui-generis/comment-page-4/#comment-22159</link>
		<dc:creator>JimD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We argue what most socialists the world over argue for, that is, the end of these occupations. From that you say we support the Taliban, which using the same twisted logic must mean you support these actions and for you George Bush must go down as one of the great liberators in human history. Except that you really must believe this because you believe in your own twisted logic and because we reject your logic, we can say we do not support the Taliban.

To sum up –You say we support the Taliban but we disagree and say your logic is all wrong.

We say you regard George Bush as a great liberator and your logic means you agree with us.

Glad this has finally all been made clear.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We argue what most socialists the world over argue for, that is, the end of these occupations. From that you say we support the Taliban, which using the same twisted logic must mean you support these actions and for you George Bush must go down as one of the great liberators in human history. Except that you really must believe this because you believe in your own twisted logic and because we reject your logic, we can say we do not support the Taliban.</p>
<p>To sum up –You say we support the Taliban but we disagree and say your logic is all wrong.</p>
<p>We say you regard George Bush as a great liberator and your logic means you agree with us.</p>
<p>Glad this has finally all been made clear.</p>
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		<title>By: JimD</title>
		<link>http://www.davidosler.com/2009/08/iran-capitalist-theocracy-sui-generis/comment-page-4/#comment-22158</link>
		<dc:creator>JimD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No human case! So the Afghans are not human now!

No wonder you can react to their bloody occupation with such casual abandon.

Please state the human case for sending heavily armed troops to patrol the streets of Iraq, the ensuing mayhem, death and destruction, all for a great big lie!

Should those socialists that give comfort to our rulers to carry out such acts be shot or would that be too slow for them.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No human case! So the Afghans are not human now!</p>
<p>No wonder you can react to their bloody occupation with such casual abandon.</p>
<p>Please state the human case for sending heavily armed troops to patrol the streets of Iraq, the ensuing mayhem, death and destruction, all for a great big lie!</p>
<p>Should those socialists that give comfort to our rulers to carry out such acts be shot or would that be too slow for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Denham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Denham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 00:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly, there is no Marxist, or human, case for any policy that would give aid or comfort to the Taliban fascists, in any shape or form. Any &quot;socialist&quot; who is indifferent to the treat of these vicious fascist gynophobes, deserves to be branded with infamy, if not a bullet.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly, there is no Marxist, or human, case for any policy that would give aid or comfort to the Taliban fascists, in any shape or form. Any &#8220;socialist&#8221; who is indifferent to the treat of these vicious fascist gynophobes, deserves to be branded with infamy, if not a bullet.</p>
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		<title>By: Lobby Ludd</title>
		<link>http://www.davidosler.com/2009/08/iran-capitalist-theocracy-sui-generis/comment-page-4/#comment-22156</link>
		<dc:creator>Lobby Ludd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 21:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>morality opined:

&quot;No JimD, I think socialists, progressives, etc should avoid arguing for policies which makes the situation of women, the working classes,etc worse in Afghanistan, that is a victory of the Taliban, even if people want to call it the &quot;resistance&quot;.

I expect socialists, progressives, etc to argue for something *positive*, some thing that benefits people like schools, clinics, etc and not make up specious arguments around some &quot;resistance&quot;, who&#039;s only contribution is to blow people up or hack their fingers off.&quot;

OK, morality, instead of demanding that socialists propose something positive to advance progressive politics in Afghanistan, why not do so yourself?

Here&#039;s a starter - NATO troops out, yes or no? Give us your considered view.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>morality opined:</p>
<p>&#8220;No JimD, I think socialists, progressives, etc should avoid arguing for policies which makes the situation of women, the working classes,etc worse in Afghanistan, that is a victory of the Taliban, even if people want to call it the &#8220;resistance&#8221;.</p>
<p>I expect socialists, progressives, etc to argue for something *positive*, some thing that benefits people like schools, clinics, etc and not make up specious arguments around some &#8220;resistance&#8221;, who&#8217;s only contribution is to blow people up or hack their fingers off.&#8221;</p>
<p>OK, morality, instead of demanding that socialists propose something positive to advance progressive politics in Afghanistan, why not do so yourself?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a starter &#8211; NATO troops out, yes or no? Give us your considered view.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 21:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is such a ridiculous adolescent sort of a thing to say, crackhead pete, that I can&#039;t even be bothered to consider an answer.  But. as a mere former IMG feminist type, I suggest you ponder JimD&#039;s comment.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is such a ridiculous adolescent sort of a thing to say, crackhead pete, that I can&#8217;t even be bothered to consider an answer.  But. as a mere former IMG feminist type, I suggest you ponder JimD&#8217;s comment.</p>
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		<title>By: modernity</title>
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		<dc:creator>modernity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 17:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Do you think we should support these wars and give advice on where to conquest next? &quot;&lt;/i&gt;

No JimD, I think socialists, progressives, etc should avoid arguing for policies which makes the situation of women, the working classes,etc  worse in Afghanistan, that is a victory of the Taliban, even if people want to call it the &quot;resistance&quot;.

I expect socialists, progressives, etc to argue for something *positive*, some thing that benefits people like schools, clinics, etc and not make up specious arguments around some &quot;resistance&quot;, who&#039;s only contribution is to blow people up or hack their fingers off.

That&#039;s what I&#039;d like socialists, progressives, liberals etc to apply a bit of history, remember what it was like under the Taliban, and give up on this vulgar third worldism.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Do you think we should support these wars and give advice on where to conquest next? &#8220;</i></p>
<p>No JimD, I think socialists, progressives, etc should avoid arguing for policies which makes the situation of women, the working classes,etc  worse in Afghanistan, that is a victory of the Taliban, even if people want to call it the &#8220;resistance&#8221;.</p>
<p>I expect socialists, progressives, etc to argue for something *positive*, some thing that benefits people like schools, clinics, etc and not make up specious arguments around some &#8220;resistance&#8221;, who&#8217;s only contribution is to blow people up or hack their fingers off.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I&#8217;d like socialists, progressives, liberals etc to apply a bit of history, remember what it was like under the Taliban, and give up on this vulgar third worldism.</p>
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		<title>By: JimD</title>
		<link>http://www.davidosler.com/2009/08/iran-capitalist-theocracy-sui-generis/comment-page-4/#comment-22153</link>
		<dc:creator>JimD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 15:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Modernity,

There is no Marxist case for supporting the Taliban, as there is no Marxist case for supporting the occupation forces. At the end of the day while ever capitalism is the primary economic system these wars will continue.

Surely socialists should be mobilising people to oppose these wars, as opposition to war is opposition to capitalism.

Do you think we should support these wars and give advice on where to conquest next? This seems implicit in your replies -though you can&#039;t bring yourself to actually say it.

Or do you think we just ignore these issues completely?

I don&#039;t see that as any kind of Marxist internationalism.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Modernity,</p>
<p>There is no Marxist case for supporting the Taliban, as there is no Marxist case for supporting the occupation forces. At the end of the day while ever capitalism is the primary economic system these wars will continue.</p>
<p>Surely socialists should be mobilising people to oppose these wars, as opposition to war is opposition to capitalism.</p>
<p>Do you think we should support these wars and give advice on where to conquest next? This seems implicit in your replies -though you can&#8217;t bring yourself to actually say it.</p>
<p>Or do you think we just ignore these issues completely?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see that as any kind of Marxist internationalism.</p>
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		<title>By: modernity</title>
		<link>http://www.davidosler.com/2009/08/iran-capitalist-theocracy-sui-generis/comment-page-4/#comment-22152</link>
		<dc:creator>modernity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 13:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;And crackhead pete, I would strongly argue that Modernity in no way comes close to any kind of Marxism.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Well, JimD, as you smartarses can&#039;t make a Marxist case for supporting the Taliban in Afghanistan (or whatever euphemism you wish to you), then clearly you and many others ain&#039;t too hot on your Marxism either :)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;And crackhead pete, I would strongly argue that Modernity in no way comes close to any kind of Marxism.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Well, JimD, as you smartarses can&#8217;t make a Marxist case for supporting the Taliban in Afghanistan (or whatever euphemism you wish to you), then clearly you and many others ain&#8217;t too hot on your Marxism either <img src='http://www.davidosler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: crackhead pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>crackhead pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 10:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the utter inability of Muslim countries to unite voluntarily to construct equitable societies&quot;

Can you give examples of non-Muslim countries who have united voluntarily to construct equitable societies?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the utter inability of Muslim countries to unite voluntarily to construct equitable societies&#8221;</p>
<p>Can you give examples of non-Muslim countries who have united voluntarily to construct equitable societies?</p>
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		<title>By: JimD</title>
		<link>http://www.davidosler.com/2009/08/iran-capitalist-theocracy-sui-generis/comment-page-4/#comment-22150</link>
		<dc:creator>JimD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 10:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably this is the reason why the west and all imperial powers go out of their way to divide and conquer, both at home and abroad.

And crackhead pete, I would strongly argue that Modernity in no way comes close to any kind of Marxism.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably this is the reason why the west and all imperial powers go out of their way to divide and conquer, both at home and abroad.</p>
<p>And crackhead pete, I would strongly argue that Modernity in no way comes close to any kind of Marxism.</p>
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