Comments on: Dependency culture versus bonus culture

By: aisw

aisw — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:18:56 +0000

Easier said than done.

By: jock mctrousers

jock mctrousers — Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:25:21 +0000

” they get 2000 people chasing 200 members of a party who are basically a benefactor of the above recession around a field in Codnor ..”

To the average Joe, a working definition of fascism is the suppression of dissent by violence – I know the lefties can come up with a booklist of 100 European philosophers etc they feel we should read before we glibly use the ‘fascism’ (unless we’re just doing what we’re told), but that in itself is an indicator as to why the BNP has MEPs and the ‘left’ doesn’t. YAWN. Let’s just say that there is more of a democratic mandate (i.e.none) for 2000 BNP chasing 200 Anti-nazis round a field than vice versa, and some (yes, me!) might draw conclusions about who are the most dangerous fascists.

But yes, Frenetic was wrong about the rest.

Good post, Dave, by the way.

By: Fellow Traveller

Fellow Traveller — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:06:40 +0000

The word ‘dependency’ raises all sorts of questions. Who depends on whom exactly? Who exists truly independent of anyone else? Most ordinary people depend on the weekly or monthly pay packet. They often resent this situation that subordinates them to the will of someone else. The boss depends on his workers turning up on time and getting on with the job. Resentment sets in. The common dream involves winning the lottery so that you don’t need to be dependent in this fashion.

By: Johnny Uk

Johnny Uk — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 07:47:09 +0000

“Depedency Culture”. This bollocks has been swallowed wholesale by just about every fucking pundit and mainstream party in this country. I have NEVER EVER met someone who enjoyed depending on the Social for anything and I personally shudder at the thought that I may have to one day.

And for all these bleating fuckfaces in the right wing tosspapers that bang on about ‘dependency culture’ ad nauseam I can only say: a)fuck off! and b)why not create an economy which provides work for all that’s actually worth getting out of bed for?

I’ll be waiting for their reply with baited breath.

Not.

By: frenetic

frenetic — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:02:05 +0000

James are you a member of that failing sect the SWP, have you read ythe replies to your leaders piece in the guardian, quite a laugh and while you are at it, read Kieron Gillans piece in Red Pepper: ‘give up anti-fascism’

By: Robert

Robert — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:36:44 +0000

I’ve worked from 1966 until 1990 when one day I went to work, woke up in hospital with a nurse telling me we might have to remove your legs.

The doctor came in and I said although I do not remember this, take my legs doctor and I’ll kill you. Mind you at the time I just broke through into top of the football in my area.

I woke up three days later after they kept me sleeping to see if my legs had to come off.

Now I joined in with Labours New Deal because Labour party office wanted to use me in some sort of advert, but my local jobs center and I failed to find a single job, the Labour party office phoned me called me a few ripe names and told me it would be best if I left the party which I did.

Since then I played father Christmas out side our Tesco, picked up litter, and did six weeks work for a large firm, in which I did nothing at all, I saw nobody, nobody spoke to me , when I left they asked did you enjoy that, once I finished telling them the security guard saw me off the place.

I’m not the only one, not to long ago I had a chance of finding work, now companies are worried that if things go wrong they cannot sack me, cannot get rid of me, all these laws have made impossible for a company to employ me for a year or two.

The DDA has made my life hell. labour has basically called me scrounger, work shy, you name it, all because if they can place me onto JSA they will save millions in benefits and I’ll be one step closer to abject poverty

By: JamesT

JamesT — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:01:19 +0000

Frenetic is talking bollocks. The left have been all over these bankers bonuses.

And if he thinks we will ignore fascists he is sadly mistaken, Codnor and Birmingham are just a taste of what that scum can expect.

THAT IS A PROMISE.

By: frenetic

frenetic — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:36:15 +0000

What has been totally mystifying to me has been the lack of a Left response to the bankers obscene and disasterous destructiopn of the economy and subsequent recession, job losses,etc, instead for example, they get 2000 people chasing 200 members of a party who are basically a benefactor of the above recession around a field in Codnor, wrong end of the telescope?