Comments on: Housekeeping

By: Dave

Dave — Sat, 27 Jan 2007 15:24:10 +0000

Fear not MJ, both will get links next time I update the sidebar. Sooner rather than later.

By: marshajane

marshajane — Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:51:14 +0000

Dave still no link to unionfutures? I’m beginning to think you don’t like me

And I see Owens alerted you to our new blog socialistyouthnetwork.blogspot.com

By: SouthpawPunch

SouthpawPunch — Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:01:58 +0000

Er, No, Dave.

Transitional demands (maybe boxing isn’t so clever) v full revolutionary programme (ban it now).

Anyway, must be one of the highest ever numbers looking at my blog today – clearly a lot of lost lefts do coagulate here.

So I feel like it’s LPYS conference, Bridlington 1983.

You’re the LP bureaucrat paying for the event and watching your party brand being used to get the youth along.

I’m Militant (Derek Hatton, probably), freeloading, but ready to eat your children.

I’m not sure who is the IMG.

By: Phil

Phil — Fri, 26 Jan 2007 20:30:47 +0000

always, people have to make some claim (and usually specious) about the rest of the left

Hey ho. My point was that, as it seems to me, boxing is an issue – one of several – where valid concerns about what people do to their bodies often get overlaid and entangled with unacknowledged class antagonism. I’m not saying that anyone who wants boxing banned is a middle-class liberal; I’m not saying that boxing shouldn’t be banned; I’m not saying I’m not a middle-class liberal; and I’m not saying anything about ‘the Left’. In fact, I don’t think I’ve said any of the things you’re arguing with; perhaps you should argue with someone who has.

By: Dave

Dave — Fri, 26 Jan 2007 20:24:35 +0000

Daggi

I think I can approve comments like that, so I will in future.

Southpaw

What’s up with you? Don’t you think America’s predominantly blue collar fight fans can be won to Marxism through a direct class appeal on the basis of the transitional programme? Must you pander to their reformist consciousness? You know what your trouble is, don’t you? You’re a reformist.

By: Daggi

Daggi — Fri, 26 Jan 2007 20:08:14 +0000

Perhaps Dave could sort out his spam filter so he can at least approve the comments that include a properly-done HTML link or two, as opposed to them just being immediately deleted. I did a nice long thing about the origins of electronic music (disagreeing with Kit), with a lot of trainspottery links. But gone, the whole lot.

So, how about it, Dave?

By: andy newman

andy newman — Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:34:08 +0000

Southpaw

I looked up some more articles for you about boxing, but Dave;s spoam filter has postponed it appearing.

Anyway, check out Dave Zirin’s writings

By: andy newman

andy newman — Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:33:00 +0000

well not really dsquared, becasue Cuba is obviously a society with a relaltionship to the dominant capitalist world system.

In fact the Cubans only particpate in amateur boxing, which is safer and more regulated.

By: andy newman

andy newman — Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:31:05 +0000

Southpaw,

You need to subscribe to Edge of Sports, the excellent socialist soprt column by Dave Zirin.

He has covered boxing, and there is a lot of good stuff about it in his book “what’s my name, fool?”

There is less about boxing availablw on the web, but these articles are intersting:

http://www.edgeofsports.com/2006-11-22-211/index.html

http://www.edgeofsports.com/2005-11-19-163/index.html

http://www.edgeofsports.com/2004-01-15-37/index.html

By: dsquared

dsquared — Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:27:46 +0000

The attempt to graft the standard BMA critique of boxing onto an argument about capitalism really does tend to come aground when one thinks of Cuba; whatever one’s view of the Cuban state, it is a highly egalitarian country and they *love* boxing.